A safe place for Pastors to be people… When J.R. and I set out to start MMP this is what we envisioned. This is our final episode of season 1, it is powerful. We have a conversation with A.J. Swoboda about transitions, temptations, preaching as pornography, Legos, tears, the interior life of a pastor, and the dark night of the soul. We recognized early on as we were recording that this interview puts into words what so many pastors experience but fail to find language for. We are deeply grateful to our friend A.J. for going this deep with us and we look forward to the fruit of his vulnerability. We will see you in September!Resources: Books by A.J.A Glorious Dark: Finding Hope in the Tension between Belief and ExperienceSubversive Sabbath: The Surprising Power of Rest in a Nonstop WorldThe Dusty Ones: Why Wandering Deepens Your FaithMessy: God Likes It That WayRedeeming How We Talk: Discover How Communication Fuels Our Growth, Shapes Our Relationships, and Changes Our LivesQuestions:1.What did A.J. say that stuck out to you that has some implication for what you should or should not be doing moving forward?2. Who is one person that might benefit from hearing this episode?If you have any questions, comments, or thoughts for the show drop us a line, voice mail or smoke signal at dougmoister@gmail.com. We are a new podcast so we ask you to make sure to subscribe, write a review, and share this with other pastors and kingdom leaders. We hope to see the MMP community grow.